stuff, because we have a nation that is demanding action to create millions of jobs to transform our energy system, to come up with a fair tax proposal so the wealthy and large corporations start paying their fair share. we are not going to be able to do those things and many other things, the things, in fact, that mitch mcconnell and his billionaire friends are worried about, we are not going to be able to do that if we need 60 votes. no, i think what ended up happening is we could only get to the best of my knowledge 47, 48 votes. that was the reality. there were seven or so democrats who chose not to go along with what we call the talking filibuster, which would have meant 51 votes. and that's the story. >> it looks to me like we're reaching the point where the american public is growing more aware of filibuster reform that relates to substantive issues. and this is not a good deal. and it's going to be very interesting to see how this plays out. next week the president is going to be going to nevada to talk about immigration reform. i mean, do you think that we can get immigration refor